Antikörper als Corona Prophylaxe

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Mimau antwortete auf Antikörper als Corona Prophylaxe

02 Dez. 2021 17:38

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Danke.
Aber die Einleitung.... " In sogenannten "Querdenker"-Kreisen wird oft die Antikörpertherapie gegen Corona empfohlen. Dabei ist diese Therapieform viel komplizierter als eine Impfung. "

Interessant das man als Krebspatient der sich Gedanken macht vom ZDF quasi zum "Querdenker" erklärt wird. Da habe ich gleich am Anfang die "Rote Hasskappe" an.
Unnötig.

Ich durfte mich ja schon 2017 mit dem Corona Virus auseinandersetzen, anderer Stamm als die aktuellen. Mitten in der VCD Therapie.
Da ich es nicht los wurde. Nicht überraschend während der Chemo, gab es auch eine 2 x lige Antikörper Behandlung.
Damit gelang es dem Virus recht schnell Herr zu werden.
Gute Sache das.
Aber bei weitem nicht so dramatisch oder kompliziert wie im Bericht rüber gebracht. War total Easy. Ist aber wohl teuer ! Das dürfte der Knackpunkt sein.
Frage mich, ob man wohl einem Ungeimpften ( nicht vor erkrankten ) der an Covid erkrankt und dem eine Anti Körper Therapie helfen würde. Diese Behandlung verwehrt wird ?
Inzwischen herrscht diesbezüglich ja schon ein für mich , ebenfalls kranker Ton vor.

Aber das es diese Möglichkeit überhaupt gibt ist super.

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Mapoli antwortete auf Antikörper als Corona Prophylaxe

02 Dez. 2021 12:04 - 02 Dez. 2021 12:15

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Heute Vormittag gab es im Morgenmagazin einen Bericht über die genannten Antikörper.

www.zdf.de/nachrichten/zdf-morgenmagazin...apie-corona-100.html

Letzte Änderung: 02 Dez. 2021 12:15 von Mapoli.

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Mimau antwortete auf Antikörper als Corona Prophylaxe

24 Nov. 2021 10:56

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"" aber man muss mit unserer Krankheit viele schwerwiegende Kompromisse eingehen, sonst kann man bald Gänseblümchen von unten betrachten.""

Das ist wohl wahr ;-(. Andererseits ..... sein wir froh das wir überhaupt eine Wahl haben.
Betreff diese Impfung war ,für mich, von Anfang an klar das ich erst warten würde bis belastbare Daten für unsereins vorliegen.
Ich wollte wissen ob unser "komisches" Immunsystem nicht in irgendeiner davon getriggert wird etc.
Offensichtlich passiert das wohl nicht.
Das Video der Würzburger dazu fand ich sehr überzeugend. Sehr gut kommuniziert und am Ende gesagt wie es ist. Das am Ende jeder ! Kontakt mit dem Virus haben würde war mir schon vor einem Jahr klar. Die Corona Viren sind nicht einfach zu "besiegen".

Schade nur das , für mich, Politik und Wissenschaft mit der Impfkampagne ( die am ende eher Propaganda gleicht ) und deren Kommunikation übertrieben haben.
Viele Fehler wurden gemacht die wohl letztendlich dazu führten das sich die Fronten verhärteten, und sich extreme auf beiden Seiten bilden.Leider.
Manchmal ist das auch einfach ein Psycho Ding. Was die Politik mit all ihren Beratern eigentlich wissen sollte.
Bei mir war es schon immer so, wenn ich zu etwas "gezwungen wurde oder unter Druck gesetzt wurde, das ich eigentlich schon freiwillig machen wollte.
Dann habe ich mich gesperrt. Dann wollte ich es erst recht nicht mehr machen. Damit bin ich sicher nicht allein.
Klar, Psycho aber da machste nix ;-)

Gleichzeitig trage ich ein tiefes Misstrauen der Politik gegenüber in mir. Wenn ich Aussagen höre wie : Es geht schließlich um die Gesundheit der Bürger, darum Menschenleben zu retten.
Dann frage ich mich zb. Warum müssen dann immer noch um die 10.000 Menschen unnötigerweise am Krankenhauskeim sterben !
Das hätte man schon längst in Angriff nehmen können, hat man aber nicht ist wohl zu teuer also lässt man diese Menschen halt "leise" sterben.

Wie es besser geht hat für mich Würzburg gezeigt.
Ich muss eh noch einige Impfungen nachholen, dann werde ich auch diesen Stoff dann mal probieren. Ich habe ja schon einiges probiert, was einen nicht umbringt macht nur härter ;-)

Schön das es ja langsam auch vielversprechende Behandlungsmethoden im Angebot hat.

So, Roman und teil Seelen strip Ende.

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miregal antwortete auf Antikörper als Corona Prophylaxe

23 Nov. 2021 18:32 - 23 Nov. 2021 18:36

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Man kann für oder gegen Gentechnik sein. Bei den MRNA Impfstoffen wird sie in körpereigenen Zellen angewandt, also ähnlich wie bei der Car-T Zelltherapie. Bei den Vektorimpfstoffen wird ein fremdes Virus manipuliert. Und bei den Totimpfstoffen hat man das Originalvirus gentechnisch so manipuliert, dass es sich nicht mehr im Körper vermehren kann. Unsere ganzen Myelomantikörper sind ja auch das Produkt von gentechnisch veränderten Organismen, die dann die AK produzieren.
Für mich also nichts wirklich Neues, aber man muss mit unserer Krankheit viele schwerwiegende Kompromisse eingehen, sonst kann man bald Gänseblümchen von unten betrachten.
Impfen ist da noch das wirklich kleinste Problem. Die Hochdosistherapie halte ich für wesentlich gefährlicher und ist auch nur eine palliative Maßnahme

Letzte Änderung: 23 Nov. 2021 18:36 von miregal.

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Mimau antwortete auf Antikörper als Corona Prophylaxe

23 Nov. 2021 16:43

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Danke !
Puh dieses Medizinische Englisch ist schon immer ein harter Brocken ;- )
Ich bin darüber hinaus mal etwas weiter gegangen und auf diese interessante Seite gestoßen.
Dort wird das alles noch mal feiner "aufgedröselt".
Wenn ich alles richtig verstanden habe, gibt es reichlich Abhängigkeiten bezüglich der Gefährdung.
Insbesondere Alter und weitere Vorerkrankungen ( wie bei normal Patienten ) und noch viel Forschungsbedarf bei wem warum und so weiter.
reader.elsevier.com/reader/sd/pii/S00064...ation=20211123151546
Das Covid Virus ist ja noch recht neu und da ist noch viel Forschung nötig.
Das Immunsystem und seine Funktionen und Abhängigkeiten sind ja heute noch nicht ganz aufgedröselt.
Ein Grund warum ich dem mnra Impfstoff gegenüber eher skeptisch bin.
Insbesondere wegen dem unseren aus der Art geschlagenem Immunsystem. Ich würde niemals jemanden von der Impfung abraten.
Wie auch. Ich für mich warte aber auf den bald ( hoffentlich ) zugelassenen Totimpfstoff. Bisher bin ich ja zum Glück gut durch gekommen.

Als MM'ler ist man ja auch nicht Wissenschaftsfeindlich oder so. Ohne die wäre ich höchstwahrscheinlich schon paar Meter tiefer.
Aber diesbezüglich setze ich auf Erfahrung und davon gibt es für mich in dem Zusammenhang eben noch nicht genug. Das mag irrational sein, aber so ist das nun mal.

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Martin.Q antwortete auf Antikörper als Corona Prophylaxe

23 Nov. 2021 12:29

Martin.Q
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siehe erster Satz / Abschnitt

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352302621002787

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